norton. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i have been listening closely. what you have been saying about cost estimation. there are difficulties and you have talked about the appeal process. we got so fed up with moneyline on the table during this casino recovery process, that's how we came up with this notion. once in arbitration were both parties really have to talk about the arbitrator, that is the final result. i'm not sure that there's anyway to get around it, as you said. people are expecting a different answer. i understand that there was a project. and i'm going to ask you about that first. but there was a power project for cost estimation -- a half million dollars approved or so. while some show cost estimation, others which would have been expedited, others chose to go with the old system and part of the difference was that if you use cost estimation, you give them flexibility. whereas with the present system, you pay for other time. how did that project tell you cost estimation is just a figment of our imagination what did you learn from the pro